Expanded image of the image for its Spring Form below. Photo from Chris Garnons-Williams on 13 May 2013. This is 1 of more than 39 out of 175 permanent herbaceous perennials, that was hidden from view for the public - standing in front of it on the path or adjoining lawn - looking for its respective flowers later in June-September . |
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Rudbekia laciniata 'Herbstsonne' 'Herbstsonne' is synonymous with 'Autumn Sun'. "Rudbeckia was named for Olof Rudbeck (1630-1702) ‘one of the most remarkable Swedes of all time’, founder of the Uppsala botanic garden, and his son of the same name (1660-1740) who was a professor in Uppsala and friend of Linnaeus when he was a poverty-stricken student." from Royal Horticultural Society. |
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Black-eyed Susan, Cutleaf Coneflower, Gloriosa Daisy |
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Soil |
Chalk, Loam, Sand, Clay |
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Sun Aspect |
Full Sun, Part Shade |
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Soil Moisture |
Moist and Well-drained |
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Herbaceous Perennial |
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Height x Spread in inches (cms) |
80 x 36 (200 x 90) |
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Foliage |
Dark Green |
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Flower Shape, Natural Arrangement, Number of Petals and Flower Colour in Month(s). Seed |
Solitary of Yellow, daisy-like flowers aging to Yellowish-Brown in June-September |
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Erect Form. Pruning Group 14. "This is a genus of approximately 20 species of annuals, biennials and perennials (some of which may be grown as annuals), with short rhizomes, from moist meadows and light woodland in North America. They have branched or unbranched stems and most have alternate, simple leaves, prominently veined and toothed towards the tips. Usually solitary, daisy-like flowerheads, often with reflexed yellow ray-florets and conical centres consisting of black, brown or green disc-florets, are borne on long stems over a long period from summer to autumn. Most are good for cut flowers and do well in a mixed border, naturalized in a meadow or in a woodland garden. This cultivar is an upright, rhizomatous, clump-forming perennial with oval, toothed or slightly lobed, prominently veined (see foliage photo below), glossy, mid-green leaves to 15cm (6in) long. From midsummer to early autumn, branching stems bear daisy-like flowerheads 10-12cm (4-5in) across, with bright yellow ray-florets and high, conical centres of green disc-florets, becoming yellowish brown with age. Grow in moderately fertile, preferably heavy but well-drained soil that does not dry out, in full sun or partial shade." from Royal Horticultural Society. " 'Herbstsonne' is an upright, rhizomatous, clump-forming perennial coneflower which typically grows 4-7' tall. This is a substantial plant which features large daisy-like flowers (3-4" across) with drooping yellow rays and elongated bright green center cones. Flowers bloom singly atop slender branching stems. Long summer bloom. Toothed, bright green leaves (3-6" long). 'Herbstsonne' is varyingly sold as a cultivar of either Rudbeckia nitida or Rudbeckia laciniata, however some experts maintain that it is actually a hybrid between the two species." from Missouri Botanical Garden. "Sow in early spring at 20C on the surface of moist, but not waterlogged, compost, covering with the barest dusting of compost or vermiculite, as light is required for germination. Pot on individually as germination occurs. The protection of a cold frame may be beneficial. Grow seedlings on until large enough to plant out. There is conflicting advice about whether or not cold stratification (giving the seeds a period of cold in the fridge) is recommended." More seed will be available in the Autumn from Norfolk Cottage Garden. - "There are so very many plants in the garden that I am not able yet able to offer in the usual way in the shop. They change so much in size and habit over the year that it is difficult to know how to describe and cost them. So, to give you the opportunity to obtain some of the plants, I will be listing them here, usually with photos. If you see something that you would like, please let me know and I will tell you in what form and when they can be supplied (pots, plugs, bare-rooted, cuttings, etc.) and how much they will cost. If you then wish to go ahead and buy, I will create a special order page for you. It's early days for this section of the site, so please check back often - there are so many plants I would like to offer you and the list will grow over the coming weeks and months!" Available from Coblands , Norfolk Cottage Garden and Special Perennials in the UK with Creek Hill Nursery in America. |
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Winter Form in middle at back next to back path from Mixed Borders at RHS Wisley. Photo from Chris Garnons-Williams on 4 March 2013. |
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Spring Form from Mixed Borders at RHS Wisley. Photo from Chris Garnons-Williams on 25 April 2013. |
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Spring Form from Mixed Borders at RHS Wisley. Photo from Chris Garnons-Williams on 13 May 2013. |
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Winter Foliage from Mixed Borders at RHS Wisley. |
Spring Foliage from Mixed Borders at RHS Wisley. |
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Spring Foliage from Mixed Borders at RHS Wisley. |
Autumn Foliage from Mixed Borders at RHS Wisley. |
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MIXED BORDER RHS WISLEY HERBACEOUS PERENNIALS GALLERY PAGES |
FOLIAGE COLOUR |
SEED/FRUIT COLOUR FLOWER BED PICTURES |
Starting with the data in Garden Style followed by Infill Plants, then you can refine your plant list from the remaining galleries in this cell:- |
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HERBACEOUS PERENNIAL Gallery with 7 Flower Colours (Red, Pink and Purple on same page) per Month in Colour Wheel. Click on Black or White box in Colour of Month. |
HERBACEOUS PERENNIAL INDEX -
The variety of plants that can be used in alpine gardening is obviously very large and very bewildering at first approach. With a view to easing the task of selection here are lists The standard potting and seed-soil recipes from The Propagation of Alpines by Lawrence D. Hills are at the bottom of the page on Alpine - Sink and Trough Gardens. |
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The Herbaceous Perennials in this gallery are not compared with other Herbaceous Perennials in the HERBACEOUS PERENNIAL GALLERY, but they are compared with each other in the Mixed Border Garden Design Gallery using the above 7 Flower Colours per month Wheel. FLOWER COLOUR RANGE IN 71 PARTS OF RHS WISLEY MIXED BORDER DURING After reviewing the situation in the |
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Herbaceous Perennial Flower Thumbnail |
Flowering Months |
Height x Width in inches (cms) - 1 inch = 2.5 cms, 12 inches = 1 foot = 30 cms, 36 inches = 3 feet = 1 yard = 90 cms, 40 inches = 100 cms |
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48-60 x 24 |
96 x 40 |
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June, July, August, |
36 x 24 |
48 x 24 |
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June, July, |
48 x 18 |
40-60 x 20-40 (100-150 x 50-100) |
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June, July, |
36 x 18 |
June, July, |
60 x 40 |
Creamy-White. |
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June, July, |
48 x 24 |
32-39 x 24 (80-100 x 60) |
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May, June, |
36 x 24 |
July, August, September |
64 x 16 |
Violet-Blue. |
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June, July, |
20 x 15 |
August, September |
96 x 40 |
Dark Blue. |
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June, July, August, |
28 x 18 |
July, August |
40-60 x 4-20 (100-150 x 10-50) |
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36 x 16 |
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36-42 x 12 |
48 x 36 |
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16-48 x 12 |
70 x 40 |
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42 x 36 |
August, September, October |
80 x 24 |
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40 x 80 |
60 x 24 |
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December, January, |
18 x 30 |
40 x 20 |
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30 x 18 |
60 x 24 |
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20 x 18 |
18 x 12 |
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24 x 24 |
July, August |
36 x 20 |
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30 x 24 |
32 x 24 |
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72-96 x 24 |
36 x 16 |
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June, July |
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40 x 16 |
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72-96 x 24 |
July, August, September, October |
48 x 24 |
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24 x 16 |
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72 x 24 |
28 x 24 |
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4 x 20 |
July, August, September |
72 x 60 |
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16 x 12 |
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24 x 230 |
20-40 x 20-40 |
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36 x 24 |
August, September, October |
24-40 x 24-40 |
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36 x 24 |
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36 x 18 |
July, August, September |
60 x 24 |
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25 x 16 |
August, September |
24 x 24 |
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16 x 18 |
July, August, September |
60 x 18-24 |
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30 x 12 |
September, October |
12-36 x 12-36 |
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36 x 12 |
July, August, September, October |
4-20 x 4-20 |
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28 x 16 |
September, October |
52 x 24 |
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12 x 12 |
September, October |
60 x 16-24 |
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30 x 18 |
August, September |
12-18 x 8-12 |
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8-12 x 10 |
45 x 78 |
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June |
20-24 x 12 |
September, October |
48 x 36 |
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July |
24 x 18 |
August, September, October, November |
48-60 x 24 |
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24 x 16 |
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24 x 12 |
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June, July |
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August, September, October |
35 x 23 |
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June, July, August, September |
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July, August |
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White |
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Eupatorium maculatum (Atropur-pureum Group) 'Riesen-schirm' |
July, August, September |
80 x 80 |
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24 x 18 |
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60-100 x 20-40 |
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60 x 72 |
July, August |
72 x 18 |
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48 x 32 |
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Geranium 'Rozanne' |
24 x 16 |
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July, August, September |
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June, July, August |
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36 x 36 |
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August, September |
120 x 48 |
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Red |
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White |
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40 x 30 |
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Yellow |
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August, September, October, November |
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Site design and content of this table copyright ©July 2009. Page structure amended December 2012. Colour Wheel clarified January 2013. Feet changed to inches (cms) July 2015. Herbaceous Perennial Menu Table changed and Index Pages added June 2017. Chris Garnons-Williams. Site design and content for Mixed Border Herbaceous Gallery copyright ©March 2013. Chris Garnons-Williams. DISCLAIMER: Links to external sites are provided as a courtesy to visitors. Ivydene Horticultural Services are not responsible for the content and/or quality of external web sites linked from this site. |
Ivydene Gardens Herbaceous Perennial Flower Shape Gallery: |
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Herbaceous Perennial Name Index The respective flower colour and thumbnail, months of flowering, form, height and width, foliage colour and thumbnail, use and comments are in the relevant index page Evergreen Perennial Name Index |
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UK Peony Index :- |
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Perennials & Ephemerals chapter of Plants for Dry Gardens by Jane Taylor. Published by Frances Lincoln Limited in 1993. ISBN 0-7112-0772-0 for plants that are drought tolerant. |
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Colour All The Year in My Garden by C.H. Middleton. Published by Ward, Lock & Co. for culture. Perennials The Gardener's Reference by Susan Carter, Carrie Becker and Bob Lilly. Published by Timber Press in 2007 for plants for Special Gardens. It also gives details of species and cultivars for each genus. |
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Prostrate or Trailing |
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Back of Border, Alley, and Too Tall for Words Special Garden |
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Copied from Ivydene Gardens Mixed Borders in RHS Garden at Wisley Garden Design: |
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This section details what I consider as errors in design carried out by the staff at the RHS garden in Wisley:-
Mixing all the primary colours together for the flower colours used in many of the 71 parts of these Mixed Borders This mixture provides a foliage and flower foil against which these other permanent herbaceous perennials can provide new growth from the ground each year, with the different colours of foliage from juvenile to mature to dying off in the autumn and then an easy maintenance during the months of December-March for removing most of the growth above ground and replacing the plant supports to provide a neat bed in a series of large ground areas. The bedding plants - see Bedding Annual Plant Index and Un-labelled Bedding Annual Plant Index pages - provide the icing on the cake at different flowering time periods between May and November to enhance the overall flower colour scheme. The new bedding each year can provide opportunities to vary the look of these beds. It was disapointing that I did not see the flowers during 2013 of more than 25% of these Permanent Herbaceous Perennial Plants - possible reasons shown in Lost Flowers Page with 'Walkabout' Plants and 'Stateless' Plants Page. A table for each month - May, June, July, August, September, October, November - shows the flower photos for each of the 71 parts of the Mixed Borders split into Blue, Orange, Pink, Red, Unusual Colour, White, or Yellow for all the plants. Besides that, you can see from the table below that Red and Pink with Unusual Flower Colours seem to be predominant as flower colours and that these are spread throughout the beds.
I have added the BEDding (started January 2014 - completed March 2014) and then the OTHer Permanent Plants (started March 2014 - completed May 2014) to the table below to show the flower colour planting scheme of the Bedding and the Other Permanent Plants and then its combination.
If I had produced this planting design with its mixture of flower colours in almost every part - or maintained these beds in this way - in 2013, I would be deeply ashamed. As a nation of gardeners in Britain; the Royal Horticultural Society being at its pinnacle, with the tradition of excellence by our previous head gardeners and their staff during the Victorian era, I had thought that the staff at the RHS Garden at Wisley would not need a lecture.
Another Possible Solution for lack of coordinated Flower Colour Scheme If you want the garden to be restful to the eye, then you can provide a colour scheme using the harmony of adjacent colours. If you prefer to shock the visitor, then use the contrast of opposite colours, but I am not favourable of the above partial use of the harmony of triads as shown by the Colour Wheel Page of Garden Design.
Very Poor Plant Labelling After reviewing the situation that 102 plants were missing their identity when in flower in 2013 out of 348 (29.31% of the plants) in 768 square metres of Mixed Borders garden beds:-
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